I don't get it.
There is a war on Christmas and on christianity (or so I'm told by the media) and maybe because I am not very religious, I don't understand.
Can anyone explain? I sincerely want to know.
Thanks
Little Miss perplexed
There is a war on Christmas and on christianity (or so I'm told by the media) and maybe because I am not very religious, I don't understand.
Can anyone explain? I sincerely want to know.
Thanks
Little Miss perplexed
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clam bumpers?
it's prolly cuz people didn't buy enough shit this year.
that's what it always seems to end up being about.
I think it's another "war" with religion used as an EXCUSE -- but this is a war of ideas.
Certain right-wing people want MORE POWER and try to used religion to get it, certain left-wing people want MORE POWER so they use religion against THEM.
I all normal people should ignore both of them and maybe they'll collapse into an exhausted heap after ripping each other to shreds. Then, maybe we can debate the REAL issues.
Squid, no offense, but I'm not sure what sensational journalism and Clam Bumpers have to do with this argument.
Christmas is gay.
Just checking in on you Knit. It has been the longest time since I have had a chance to do that. Am sneaking in at work..shhhhhhhhhh
Here's a little something I found that just might explain the whole thing (or maybe it doesn't, who knows? I just like it)
Whether you call it “The Holidays”, “Christmas”,
“Hanukkah” or nothing at all…
Every time a hand reaches out
to help another....that is the meaning of Christmas
Every time someone puts anger aside
And strives for understanding
That is the meaning of Christmas
Every time people forget their differences
And realize their love for each other
That is the meaning of Christmas
May this Christmas bring us
Closer to the spirit of human understanding
Closer to the blessing of peace!
Unknown
I actually got a phone survey from one of our local TV stations that was so obviously slanted toward "there is a war on Christmas".
They need a story. They don't want to hang the President for his crimes, so they stir up trouble with Christmas.
I say - there just aren't enough wars out there.
How about a war on reality tv?
How about a war on Britney Spears?
How about a war on Brangelina?
Or better yet - How about a war on Tom Cruise?
well thanks guys!
squid- wow. you had me until clam bumpers.
dia- yea i think matt good was right on that one
ubie- see i thought that sensible people knew this wasn't as if of deal as it is claimed to be, but I wasn't sure.
TFG- Krusty the Klown... the root of all knowledge...
nick- and so are you.
Lightfeather- thanks for stopping by. I knew that if anyone could really clue me in it would be you.
missht- and doesn't listening to nsync do the same 2 Christmas songs over and over make you want to barf?
JJ- my mum has gotten called on those too, hers was one on the "War to clean up tv". Gotta love sensationalism.
lo lo- since we idolize celebs, it would make more sense...
As a recovered former right wing fundamentalist Southern Baptist (no offense if any of you are still one of those and believe you have no need of recovery), I can offer a point of view from my past:
The particular sect of people I was involved with in my Christian days (and I say this because I know that I am not speaking for all Christians) tended to look at the "secular" world and the "christian" world as "us against them." That in itself is strange, because at the same time we were trying to convert "them." We certainly believed that Christmas was solely for celebrating the birth of Christ and that the commercialization of it bastardized the entire reason for celebration. That did not stop anyone, however, from spending inordinately high amounts of money on gifts. We just did so while looking down our noses at such characters as Santa Clause, and those people who touted his existence. And don't even get me started on the Easter Bunny...
So to walk into a store and see Santa, Frosty, Rudolph and the gang staring back at us with no mention of Mary, Joseph or Jesus was an assault to our belief that the only reason to buy gifts for loved ones in December was because of the birth of our dear lord and savior. Taken one step further, it was evidence that the world is turning its back on Jesus. One step further than that and they're all becoming pagans. Take another step and we have the persecution of Christians as predicted in Revelations. One more step and we're at Armageddon.
So as you can see, a "Happy Holiday" wish or a Santa Clause display is dangerously close to the edge of the cliff. I think most Christians throughout history have believed that they are, as my mother so eloquently puts it, "living in the end of times."
So, quite literally, "Happy Holidays" can be seen as a "sign of the times."
I know that was long and rambling, but I hope a little of what I was trying to say came out. I'll be writing about my religious experiences in the future.
wow sis b.
thanks. I think I understand where they are all coming from now.
I don't agree with them, but at least I can comprehend it!
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